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snorkleboy13
What would the optimum Trips bet for UTH be and how would you calculate it? For example, if you play $25 ante / $25 blind and you want to include the trips bets, should you bet $25 or a different amount to account for different probabilities?
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Ibeatyouraces
The optimal bet is $0.00. But if your going to play it, I say table minimum.
beachbumbabs
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The optimal bet is $0.00. But if your going to play it, I say table minimum.
I sort of agree. The trips bet is a lot of fun, so to me that has value. I try to help pay for it by keeping to table minimum, and playing at least 2x that amount on the ante. I'd prefer to play 3x, but my br won't support that at the moment, with properly aggressive betting averaging about $65/hand, not including the $5 trips. But unless you're running bonus hot, it's a steady drain on your funds, and most of your overall win usually comes from the main game.
A better strategy is probably to be extremely aggressive with the finer points of 4x, 2x, and kicker bets with those same dollars. Plenty of adrenaline rush in a 50.1% 4-bet.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
snorkleboy13
I feel good about my grasp of the strategy. I never hesitate to go 4X as long as it meets the strategy guidelines. I also follow 2X and 1X as well.
Perhaps it would be better to position my question more along the lines of bankroll management. Yes, I could avoid trips completely, but call me crazy, call me a wildman, call me the casino's best friend, but I like having the additional chance with each hand. So I started to think of it in terms of the question I asked - Is there a sweet spot bet that will give me an acceptable return when I hit, but also an acceptable loss when I don't. I'm not a big player, so I've been playing 25A / 25B / 10T as an example. So it takes 5 hands for the trips bet to equal 2 antes / blinds.
I'm not proficient in all of the calculations of odds, probabilities, risk of ruin etc. but common sense tells me that risk of ruin would go down, but to what degree.
One other thing, I think the bankroll size be 20X the combined ante/blind (no trips). Thoughts on that?
Please feel free to math the hell out of this and help me learn the calcs. And thank you.
Perhaps it would be better to position my question more along the lines of bankroll management. Yes, I could avoid trips completely, but call me crazy, call me a wildman, call me the casino's best friend, but I like having the additional chance with each hand. So I started to think of it in terms of the question I asked - Is there a sweet spot bet that will give me an acceptable return when I hit, but also an acceptable loss when I don't. I'm not a big player, so I've been playing 25A / 25B / 10T as an example. So it takes 5 hands for the trips bet to equal 2 antes / blinds.
I'm not proficient in all of the calculations of odds, probabilities, risk of ruin etc. but common sense tells me that risk of ruin would go down, but to what degree.
One other thing, I think the bankroll size be 20X the combined ante/blind (no trips). Thoughts on that?
Please feel free to math the hell out of this and help me learn the calcs. And thank you.
Ibeatyouraces
What pay table does the casino you play at use for the trips bet?
snorkleboy13
What pay table does the casino you play at use for the trips bet?
Most are 50-40-30-8-7-4-3beachbumbabs
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Most are 50-40-30-8-7-4-3
I'm seeing a lot of 6-5 lately (the rest the same). I like the one above better, though.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
Hunterhill
I'm seeing a lot of 6-5 lately (the rest the same). I like the one above better, though.
The 6 5 is a better pay table than the 7 4.
All else being equal.
The mountain is tall but grass grows on top of the mountain.
Ibeatyouraces
Toledo has the lousy 6%+ pay table.
beachbumbabs
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The 6 5 is a better pay table than the 7 4.
All else being equal.
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I think it's how I'm running. I get a lot of flushes lately. But the extra 5 on straights is nice on the other one, too.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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| Initial Hand | Probability Large Raise | Probability Medium Raise | Probability Small Raise | Probability Fold | Expected Value |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2/3 unsuited | 0 | 0.304286 | 0.243606 | 0.452109 | -0.925837 |
| 2/4 unsuited | 0 | 0.310306 | 0.241466 | 0.448228 | -0.87256 |
| 2/5 unsuited | 0 | 0.314337 | 0.242178 | 0.443485 | -0.823324 |
| 2/6 unsuited | 0 | 0.312194 | 0.233915 | 0.453891 | -0.861363 |
| 2/7 unsuited | 0 | 0.305357 | 0.231536 | 0.463107 | -0.882806 |
| 2/8 unsuited | 0 | 0.308878 | 0.237584 | 0.453539 | -0.820061 |
| 2/9 unsuited | 0 | 0.310612 | 0.28569 | 0.403698 | -0.758211 |
| 2/10 unsuited | 0 | 0.316633 | 0.38609 | 0.297277 | -0.659454 |
| 2/J unsuited | 0 | 0.322143 | 0.479439 | 0.198419 | -0.567216 |
| 2/Q unsuited | 0 | 0.333418 | 0.515782 | 0.1508 | -0.452218 |
| 2/K unsuited | 0 | 0.362551 | 0.525849 | 0.1116 | -0.311296 |
| 2/A unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.04173 |
| 3/4 unsuited | 0 | 0.323163 | 0.243305 | 0.433532 | -0.760051 |
| 3/5 unsuited | 0 | 0.322857 | 0.24694 | 0.430202 | -0.708336 |
| 3/6 unsuited | 0 | 0.319745 | 0.23938 | 0.440875 | -0.745154 |
| 3/7 unsuited | 0 | 0.31949 | 0.231853 | 0.448657 | -0.767026 |
| 3/8 unsuited | 0 | 0.313163 | 0.233988 | 0.452848 | -0.784905 |
| 3/9 unsuited | 0 | 0.314745 | 0.28581 | 0.399445 | -0.708666 |
| 3/10 unsuited | 0 | 0.319082 | 0.386977 | 0.293941 | -0.610015 |
| 3/J unsuited | 0 | 0.323929 | 0.490041 | 0.186031 | -0.516712 |
| 3/Q unsuited | 0 | 0.335612 | 0.530447 | 0.133941 | -0.400884 |
| 3/K unsuited | 0 | 0.371224 | 0.528731 | 0.100045 | -0.258317 |
| 3/A unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.147447 |
| 4/5 unsuited | 0 | 0.330102 | 0.253447 | 0.416451 | -0.597704 |
| 4/6 unsuited | 0 | 0.326939 | 0.24502 | 0.428041 | -0.631146 |
| 4/7 unsuited | 0 | 0.324184 | 0.239921 | 0.435895 | -0.652204 |
| 4/8 unsuited | 0 | 0.322398 | 0.238953 | 0.438649 | -0.670508 |
| 4/9 unsuited | 0 | 0.316939 | 0.28459 | 0.398471 | -0.674678 |
| 4/10 unsuited | 0 | 0.322449 | 0.388382 | 0.289169 | -0.561652 |
| 4/J unsuited | 0 | 0.328112 | 0.497765 | 0.174123 | -0.467023 |
| 4/Q unsuited | 0 | 0.340714 | 0.543068 | 0.116217 | -0.350343 |
| 4/K unsuited | 0 | 0.380714 | 0.531607 | 0.087679 | -0.206014 |
| 4/A unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.249395 |
| 5/6 unsuited | 0 | 0.332041 | 0.25253 | 0.415429 | -0.520572 |
| 5/7 unsuited | 0 | 0.329694 | 0.246692 | 0.423614 | -0.538616 |
| 5/8 unsuited | 0 | 0.327347 | 0.246239 | 0.426414 | -0.556168 |
| 5/9 unsuited | 0 | 0.325153 | 0.289475 | 0.385372 | -0.560523 |
| 5/10 unsuited | 0 | 0.326224 | 0.385557 | 0.288218 | -0.527259 |
| 5/J unsuited | 0 | 0.333418 | 0.501255 | 0.165327 | -0.415855 |
| 5/Q unsuited | 0 | 0.348673 | 0.557868 | 0.093458 | -0.297525 |
| 5/K unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -0.117582 |
| 5/A unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.358541 |
| 6/7 unsuited | 0 | 0.335408 | 0.249535 | 0.415057 | -0.430923 |
| 6/8 unsuited | 0 | 0.33398 | 0.248153 | 0.417867 | -0.446264 |
| 6/9 unsuited | 0 | 0.33199 | 0.290571 | 0.377439 | -0.450033 |
| 6/10 unsuited | 0 | 0.333418 | 0.388159 | 0.278423 | -0.416729 |
| 6/J unsuited | 0 | 0.335918 | 0.495046 | 0.169035 | -0.382895 |
| 6/Q unsuited | 0 | 0.35352 | 0.558225 | 0.088255 | -0.24873 |
| 6/K unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -0.020774 |
| 6/A unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.339763 |
| 7/8 unsuited | 0 | 0.338469 | 0.252622 | 0.408909 | -0.340197 |
| 7/9 unsuited | 0 | 0.33699 | 0.293185 | 0.369826 | -0.341955 |
| 7/10 unsuited | 0 | 0.340714 | 0.388049 | 0.271237 | -0.305845 |
| 7/J unsuited | 0 | 0.344745 | 0.493503 | 0.161752 | -0.269829 |
| 7/Q unsuited | 0 | 0.363418 | 0.554881 | 0.0817 | -0.209388 |
| 7/K unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.081354 |
| 7/A unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.465996 |
| 8/9 unsuited | 0 | 0.344286 | 0.289869 | 0.365845 | -0.236111 |
| 8/10 unsuited | 0 | 0.37148 | 0.366061 | 0.26246 | -0.193462 |
| 8/J unsuited | 0 | 0.370816 | 0.474244 | 0.154939 | -0.154944 |
| 8/Q unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -0.069429 |
| 8/K unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.166259 |
| 8/A unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.575314 |
| 9/10 unsuited | 0 | 0.405153 | 0.334936 | 0.259911 | -0.07946 |
| 9/J unsuited | 0 | 0.42 | 0.427722 | 0.152278 | -0.038548 |
| 9/Q unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.132505 |
| 9/K unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.371024 |
| 9/A unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.667695 |
| 10/J unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.174024 |
| 10/Q unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.369495 |
| 10/K unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.607484 |
| 10/A unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.906071 |
| J/Q unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.455681 |
| J/K unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.691991 |
| J/A unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.991767 |
| Q/K unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.782942 |
| Q/A unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.080609 |
| K/A unsuited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.171914 |
| 2/3 suited | 0 | 0.306071 | 0.271131 | 0.422798 | -0.649268 |
| 2/4 suited | 0 | 0.313265 | 0.268168 | 0.418567 | -0.599061 |
| 2/5 suited | 0 | 0.317857 | 0.268349 | 0.413794 | -0.552398 |
| 2/6 suited | 0 | 0.315867 | 0.260915 | 0.423218 | -0.609673 |
| 2/7 suited | 0 | 0.3125 | 0.25629 | 0.43121 | -0.650352 |
| 2/8 suited | 0 | 0.31801 | 0.260772 | 0.421218 | -0.588712 |
| 2/9 suited | 0 | 0.33301 | 0.294364 | 0.372625 | -0.527903 |
| 2/10 suited | 0 | 0.363316 | 0.365854 | 0.27083 | -0.429841 |
| 2/J suited | 0 | 0.395306 | 0.42622 | 0.178474 | -0.33622 |
| 2/Q suited | 0 | 0.422194 | 0.444596 | 0.133211 | -0.22044 |
| 2/K suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -0.074507 |
| 2/A suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.399855 |
| 3/4 suited | 0 | 0.326582 | 0.269192 | 0.404226 | -0.472659 |
| 3/5 suited | 0 | 0.327041 | 0.272155 | 0.400804 | -0.423657 |
| 3/6 suited | 0 | 0.324745 | 0.264753 | 0.410502 | -0.479822 |
| 3/7 suited | 0 | 0.325969 | 0.256953 | 0.417078 | -0.52088 |
| 3/8 suited | 0 | 0.321837 | 0.257764 | 0.420399 | -0.557778 |
| 3/9 suited | 0 | 0.343112 | 0.290837 | 0.366051 | -0.482501 |
| 3/10 suited | 0 | 0.374031 | 0.361153 | 0.264816 | -0.38425 |
| 3/J suited | 0 | 0.401582 | 0.43196 | 0.166458 | -0.289096 |
| 3/Q suited | 0 | 0.427092 | 0.454265 | 0.118643 | -0.172115 |
| 3/K suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.022 |
| 3/A suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.496714 |
| 4/5 suited | 0 | 0.337908 | 0.275477 | 0.386615 | -0.298984 |
| 4/6 suited | 0 | 0.33699 | 0.266402 | 0.396608 | -0.351849 |
| 4/7 suited | 0 | 0.334388 | 0.2618 | 0.403812 | -0.392104 |
| 4/8 suited | 0 | 0.332398 | 0.261349 | 0.406253 | -0.429525 |
| 4/9 suited | 0 | 0.35398 | 0.283815 | 0.362206 | -0.452472 |
| 4/10 suited | 0 | 0.392857 | 0.351632 | 0.255511 | -0.339384 |
| 4/J suited | 0 | 0.413673 | 0.432751 | 0.153576 | -0.242526 |
| 4/Q suited | 0 | 0.436429 | 0.460315 | 0.103256 | -0.124449 |
| 4/K suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.117016 |
| 4/A suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.590105 |
| 5/6 suited | 0 | 0.348316 | 0.268747 | 0.382936 | -0.226888 |
| 5/7 suited | 0 | 0.34449 | 0.264516 | 0.390994 | -0.264165 |
| 5/8 suited | 0 | 0.344949 | 0.262638 | 0.392413 | -0.30074 |
| 5/9 suited | 0 | 0.381378 | 0.275176 | 0.343446 | -0.323487 |
| 5/10 suited | 0 | 0.409388 | 0.339889 | 0.250723 | -0.308004 |
| 5/J suited | 0 | 0.423316 | 0.431525 | 0.145159 | -0.194062 |
| 5/Q suited | 0 | 0.442245 | 0.471463 | 0.086292 | -0.07447 |
| 5/K suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.219148 |
| 5/A suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.690217 |
| 6/7 suited | 0 | 0.35551 | 0.262945 | 0.381544 | -0.140962 |
| 6/8 suited | 0 | 0.360102 | 0.257902 | 0.381996 | -0.174977 |
| 6/9 suited | 0 | 0.390561 | 0.273507 | 0.335932 | -0.196585 |
| 6/10 suited | 0 | 0.419184 | 0.339803 | 0.241014 | -0.18096 |
| 6/J suited | 0 | 0.429286 | 0.424012 | 0.146703 | -0.163644 |
| 6/Q suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -0.006074 |
| 6/K suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.309149 |
| 6/A suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.649275 |
| 7/8 suited | 0 | 0.374796 | 0.254913 | 0.370291 | -0.052754 |
| 7/9 suited | 0 | 0.398367 | 0.273578 | 0.328054 | -0.071685 |
| 7/10 suited | 0 | 0.424694 | 0.340031 | 0.235275 | -0.053435 |
| 7/J suited | 0 | 0.432806 | 0.425739 | 0.141455 | -0.034445 |
| 7/Q suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.062776 |
| 7/K suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.403899 |
| 7/A suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.767431 |
| 8/9 suited | 0 | 0.414286 | 0.26514 | 0.320574 | 0.051069 |
| 8/10 suited | 0 | 0.445663 | 0.324835 | 0.229502 | 0.075411 |
| 8/J suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.107386 |
| 8/Q suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.278932 |
| 8/K suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.481611 |
| 8/A suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.86889 |
| 9/10 suited | 0 | 0.477194 | 0.296558 | 0.226249 | 0.205485 |
| 9/J suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.317837 |
| 9/Q suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.489199 |
| 9/K suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.694571 |
| 9/A suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.953564 |
| 10/J suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.778841 |
| 10/Q suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.943595 |
| 10/K suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.148469 |
| 10/A suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.409312 |
| J/Q suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.024156 |
| J/K suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.2275 |
| J/A suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.489507 |
| Q/K suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.31262 |
| Q/A suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.572705 |
| K/A suited | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.658326 |
| 2/2 pair | 0 | 0.144388 | 0.792662 | 0.06295 | -0.179478 |
| 3/3 pair | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.088456 |
| 4/4 pair | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.46157 |
| 5/5 pair | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.831643 |
| 6/6 pair | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.159873 |
| 7/7 pair | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.486948 |
| 8/8 pair | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.811461 |
| 9/9 pair | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2.132513 |
| 10/10 pair | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2.480803 |
| J/J pair | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2.749739 |
| Q/Q pair | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3.018649 |
| K/K pair | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3.289359 |
| A/A pair | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3.601073 |
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